Curse

Hell Raiser · Feb 24, 2007, 08:42 AM // 08:42

I have no problem with afk in parts of the game, like LDoA (even though I hate how they support things like DL). The problem with AFKers in places like Aspenwood is the fact that they ruin other peoples experience. I have had TONS of fun in FA, met some really nice people and made plenty friends.

Something that might limit Afkers is removing the exp gain, some people afk for the exp toward survival title on Lux side, because you don't have to come into contact with people. I don't know many people that really "need" the exp gain from here, other than people who afk for it.

upier · Feb 24, 2007, 09:17 AM // 09:17

oki got into a few games - 2 to be exact for now - since it seems that aspy this weekend might be a bit less populated (had to wait ages to get in - might get a bit better in the afternnon - since its still a bit early in europe)
entered on the luxon side:
and both games no leechers on our side! woohoo!! and no reason to leave!
well 'woohoo' until we reached the kurzick base and we were greated with this:

2 and 5 afks!
seriously not fun!

Yosh · Feb 24, 2007, 09:18 AM // 09:18

Fun for the winning team...

Faer · Feb 24, 2007, 09:34 AM // 09:34

Actually, if you really want to screw over the people who AFK in Fort Aspenwood, get everyone who isn't AFK'ing to move over to Jade Quarry. It's more fun there anyway, in my opinion.

Naf Olbaid · Feb 24, 2007, 09:43 AM // 09:43

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Originally Posted by Faer

Actually, if you really want to screw over the people who AFK in Fort Aspenwood, get everyone who isn't AFK'ing to move over to Jade Quarry. It's more fun there anyway, in my opinion.

And you would get them to do that.. how?

Meat Axe · Feb 24, 2007, 10:47 AM // 10:47

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Originally Posted by Hell Raiser

I have no problem with afk in parts of the game, like LDoA (even though I hate how they support things like DL). The problem with AFKers in places like Aspenwood is the fact that they ruin other peoples experience. I have had TONS of fun in FA, met some really nice people and made plenty friends.

Something that might limit Afkers is removing the exp gain, some people afk for the exp toward survival title on Lux side, because you don't have to come into contact with people. I don't know many people that really "need" the exp gain from here, other than people who afk for it.

Yeah, I wasn't commenting on anyone having problems with afking in other parts of the game. It's just that a system like this will probably be bugged so that these other parts of the game will be affected. It'd be fantastic if they managed to develop a system without any flaws that only affected areas that are ruined by people afking just to reap the rewards that others earn. But it's unlikely that this system will have no impact on the rest of the game. In other words, I am so glad I am getting my LDoA title now.

Pakana · Feb 24, 2007, 03:03 PM // 15:03

Played about a dozen games so far, Luxon side. 2 times we had full team. Leechers from 1 to 3 per a game.

juicetoocool17 · Feb 24, 2007, 07:09 PM // 19:09

What is Aspenwood how do i play it?

Neo Nugget · Feb 24, 2007, 07:14 PM // 19:14

how..can..you..fix being away from guild wars????

Yosh · Feb 24, 2007, 08:19 PM // 20:19

In protest of protesters im going afk at aspenwood right noW!

Drazaar · Feb 24, 2007, 11:47 PM // 23:47

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Originally Posted by Yosh

Fun for the winning team...

I just felt I had to respond to this :s

Sure in the end you can take that victory and put it in the win collum but at what cost and what kinda win is that anyway?

I mean I can only relate those kinda wins to the equivalent to beating a 1 legged midget in an arse kicking contest, or beating a weak nerdy 5 year old in a streat fight. Sure there wins but nothing to write home about and have bragging rights and sense of acomplishment over.

Furthermore in the case presented above with the kurzicks having 5 afkers on 1 side. but 2 were willing to try in an extent. What kind of impression does such an experience leave on them? In the end they probably spited that place and said never again. What a wonderful sentiment to leave in your players yeah?

In response to everyone leaving to Jade. I just think thats a poor solution and again Anet shirking responsibility to fix what is clearly somethign that needs a solid solution and really should of had it much sooner then this. Its been close to a year now and the problem only slowly gets worse like a spreding infection.
Even then if we do the mass exodus to Jade you know the leechers would only follow you. My wonder with that solution would be what would happen first. Solid 8v8 matches in Aspenwood of all leecher teams or them migrating with the migration of honest players. What must be done for Anet to finally take notice of this is what I ask. I mean this is there career and peope take pride in there careers right? Im a carpenter and I take pride in my work and thus make sure that all partso f that house that I had a part in its creation is as close to perfection as humanly possible. In a metaphor sense that roof is sagging with Anets imperfection. Are they gonna wait till it collapses in on itself till they admit theres a problem that needs fixing?

My final view on this is that Anet suspends and banns scammers and such. Well in a sense leeching is scamming too. I mean a leecher is going in there willingly ad knowingly gonna ruin the experience of the 7 other honest players on his team. Hes ripping them off of there hard work fo a fun experience and winning knowingly and willingly. How is leeching not a version of scamming there?

Dont get me wrong someone said it before in here and its true. Anet has done a lot of good but this is one horrid blemesh and imperfection they totally fell off on and its only as bad as it is because of there ignorant lasy attitude to it to let the problem exist this long when it could of been solved and saved so much sooner and fairer and not destroy what could of been a GREAT intro to PvP.

Yosh · Feb 24, 2007, 11:53 PM // 23:53

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Originally Posted by Drazaar

I just felt I had to respond to this :s

Sure in the end you can take that victory and put it in the win collum but at what cost and what kinda win is that anyway?

I mean I can only relate those kinda wins to the equivalent to beating a 1 legged midget in an arse kicking contest, or beating a weak nerdy 5 year old in a streat fight. Sure there wins but nothing to write home about and have bragging rights and sense of acomplishment over.

Furthermore in the case presented above with the kurzicks having 5 afkers on 1 side. but 2 were willing to try in an extent. What kind of impression does such an experience leave on them? In the end they probably spited that place and said never again. What a wonderful sentiment to leave in your players yeah?

In response to everyone leaving to Jade. I just think thats a poor solution and again Anet shirking responsibility to fix what is clearly somethign that needs a solid solution and really should of had it much sooner then this. Its been close to a year now and the problem only slowly gets worse like a spreding infection.
Even then if we do the mass exodus to Jade you know the leechers would only follow you. My wonder with that solution would be what would happen first. Solid 8v8 matches in Aspenwood of all leecher teams or them migrating with the migration of honest players. What must be done for Anet to finally take notice of this is what I ask. I mean this is there career and peope take pride in there careers right? Im a carpenter and I take pride in my work and thus make sure that all partso f that house that I had a part in its creation is as close to perfection as humanly possible. In a metaphor sense that roof is sagging with Anets imperfection. Are they gonna wait till it collapses in on itself till they admit theres a problem that needs fixing?

My final view on this is that Anet suspends and banns scammers and such. Well in a sense leeching is scamming too. I mean a leecher is going in there willingly ad knowingly gonna ruin the experience of the 7 other honest players on his team. Hes ripping them off of there hard work fo a fun experience and winning knowingly and willingly. How is leeching not a version of scamming there?

Dont get me wrong someone said it before in here and its true. Anet has done a lot of good but this is one horrid blemesh and imperfection they totally fell off on and its only as bad as it is because of there ignorant lasy attitude to it to let the problem exist this long when it could of been solved and saved so much sooner and fairer and not destroy what could of been a GREAT intro to PvP.

look we all know Anet is screwed up. No matter what we do leechers will leech. So i say we take advantage of it. find a oppenent with alot of leechers and kill them. easy win,easy faction.

Drazaar · Feb 25, 2007, 12:05 AM // 00:05

Thats not totally true to a near flat out wrong. They leech right now cause they know they can get away with it. That even if there team loses which they know they almost garentee it happening they will still come out with exp, and faction.
However if they suddenly had to work for that exp and faction or lose and get nothing they would either start to contribute or leave all together.

The example that wasnt too long ago was the snowball PvP fighting we had in wintersday. Leechers started going in there and screwing teams over so they could get thre free spiked eggnog but in the time it took me to go to bed and wake up and reload on my vacation Anet had removed the losers getting spiked eggnog and by the end of that day leechers had all but left cause they knew there wasnt anything for them there unless they contributed to help get a win.

So assuming Anet would put that same aspect into Aspenwood the mass majority of our present leechers would leave cause they can no longer get there free faction and exp at the expense of the honest players trying to have a fun fair balanced experienced and trying to win.

Im sorry but the folocophy of "easy money" is a pretty lame reason to turning a blind eye and cheek on this issue and not only that but is still frustrating for you when you get hit by the latter rather then your free faction and if you got it it also came at the expece of the other teams honest players. Its a crappy phylosophy and does nothign but leave bad impressions in your gamers. And Anet should take pride in all aspects of there game including the life of a fair honest Aspenwood. The players have given Anet a lot of time on it. Almost a year now. Its a horrid practice to make your gamers lose faith in you and resign themselves to countless matches of frustration well they wait for there chance for "easy faction" when every match should be "fun faction"

And yeah its also crappy that we had to resign ourselves to a "face it Anet is lasy and dont give a crap" attitude but still a voice is a powerful thing and if you dont speak up and out how can things improve.

Faer · Feb 25, 2007, 12:12 AM // 00:12

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Originally Posted by Naf Olbaid

And you would get them to do that.. how?

We (a couple players that frequent the GWG IRC) managed to pull sixteen or so people to each side of Jade Quarry the other day, and had more than five matches play out if I recall correctly (after that I left to do some forum work, so I don't know what went on from that point).

It's not that hard. We just asked people to come, and they came.

Yosh · Feb 25, 2007, 12:57 AM // 00:57

Well no matter what im gonna leech. Im proably gonna go leach right now. Its just easy while i do something else. And i get faction. Anet wont do anything about it. Thats how I like it.

Hell Raiser · Feb 25, 2007, 01:54 AM // 01:54

Just because ArenaNet wont do anything doesn't mean you need to show up here and say you are going to leech because people are protesting, you are obviously not interested in anyones in-game experience around you, Yosh.

So he wants to protest something that needs to be changed? Why do you have a problem with this? Because you will lose the best way you can earn faction without working for it? If you are serious about going to leech, you are obviously not interested in earning anything you get, you are one of those people who complain that some titles are too hard and should be easier. Don't ruin other peoples experience because you want to gain faction without working for it while doing something else.

Yosh · Feb 25, 2007, 01:58 AM // 01:58

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Originally Posted by Hell Raiser

Just because ArenaNet wont do anything doesn't mean you need to show up here and say you are going to leech because people are protesting, you are obviously not interested in anyones in-game experience around you, Yosh.

So he wants to protest something that needs to be changed? Why do you have a problem with this? Because you will lose the best way you can earn faction without working for it? If you are serious about going to leech, you are obviously not interested in earning anything you get, you are one of those people who complain that some titles are too hard and should be easier. Don't ruin other peoples experience because you want to gain faction without working for it while doing something else.

I dont care about others in game experience. and ive never complained about a title being to hard. And soome guy on a forum isnt gonna stop me from leeching.

Hell Raiser · Feb 25, 2007, 02:09 AM // 02:09

I was using that as an example, people who complain about titles are people who wont take the long road and work for what they earn. I realize that I will not change your mind about this but you do not need to come here and tell everyone you are going to go leech now, that is just terrible.

Sarevok Thordin · Feb 25, 2007, 02:15 AM // 02:15

How to ruin Leechers

No opposing party joined etc...

Juicey Shake · Feb 25, 2007, 02:20 AM // 02:20

I protested by not playing at all